In this special episode, recorded live at the International Remote Viewing Association Conference, Kelly and Jay sit down for an intimate fireside conversation on one of the most provocative questions in anomalous research: what connects remote viewing and the UFO phenomenon?

Bringing together two communities that rarely share a stage, they explore how both challenge the limits of consensus reality and reveal the deeper mysteries of consciousness. From the transpersonal nature of contact to the risks and revelations of psychic perception, the discussion dives into what happens when we stop looking up for answers and start looking within.

Along the way, they talk about creative integrity in anomalous storytelling, the role of imagination in perception, and why they believe that remote viewing may be one of the most grounded ways to approach the unknown.

Music for Cosmosis is by Michael Rubino. The show is brought to you by SpectreVision Radio.

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TIMESTAMPS

04:04 Discussing Remote Viewing in Cosmosis

09:29 Importance of Independent Filmmaking

12:38 Remote Viewing and UFO Phenomenon

29:44 The Unique Training in Remote Viewing

30:36 Disclosure Discourse and Weasel Words

31:23 The Importance of Community in Remote Viewing

32:22 The Scientist's Influence on Paranormal Investigations

33:24 The Evolution of UFO Phenomena

34:20 The Role of Media and Culture in Shaping UFO Encounters

35:32 The Challenge of Understanding Non-Human Intelligence

36:40 Remote Viewing and Personal Experiences

41:08 The Potential of Remote Viewing for Communication

45:03 AI and Consciousness

47:42 Past Lives on Other Planets

51:21 The Mission of Cosmosis

54:21 Conclusion and Credits

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