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Reasons for Hope in 2024: John Nichols, plus the Bill Gates Problem | Start Making Sense with Jon Wiener

Jan 3, 2024
John Nichols discusses reasons for hope in 2024, starting in Wisconsin. Bill Gates, the 6th richest man, and his philanthropy are discussed, examining the problems associated with his wealth. Tim Schwab explains the 'Bill Gates Problem' in detail, addressing the myth of the good billionaire and the controversies surrounding his foundation's actions.
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  • Hope in 2024 is different from optimism or pessimism, embracing uncertainty and recognizing the potential for change.
  • Organizing efforts in swing states like Wisconsin provide encouraging signs for Democrats in the upcoming 2024 election.

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Biden's Polling and Reasons for Hope in 2024

Despite initial concerns about Biden's polling, recent data suggests a competitive 2024 presidential race. John Nichols explains that hope in 2024 is different from optimism or pessimism, as it embraces uncertainty and recognizes the potential for change. He highlights the Wisconsin Democratic Party's hyper-local organizing strategy, which has led to significant victories and flipped control of key offices. Nichols argues that organizing efforts in swing states like Wisconsin provide encouraging signs for Democrats and the upcoming election.

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