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Carney Has a Lot to Lose in China

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Jan 13, 2026
In this discussion, Veena Nadjibulla, an expert on Asia-Pacific policy with a rich background in Canada-China relations, argues the importance of Mark Carney's diplomatic trip to Beijing amidst tariffs and trade tensions. She emphasizes the need for Canada to seek strategic autonomy over mere friendship with China. Kelly Ann Shaw, a former Trump administration trade official, shares insights on balancing U.S.-Canada interests while managing sensitive trade issues. Together, they explore how Canada can navigate complex international waters and forge its path with China.
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INSIGHT

Leader-Level Reset With Clear Eyes

  • Mark Carney's China trip is a deliberate leader-to-leader diplomatic reset after eight years without a Canadian prime minister visiting China.
  • Veena Nadjibulla argues diplomacy and dialogue matter but must be clear-eyed about CCP motives and limits.
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Strategic Autonomy Over Binary Choices

  • Veena Nadjibulla says Canada must pursue strategic autonomy while engaging China selectively.
  • She stresses diversification beyond China to partners like Japan, South Korea, Australia and India.
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China Wants Markets And A Narrative Win

  • China seeks market access and symbolic narrative wins from Canada, including selling manufactured goods and EVs.
  • Veena warns China values the narrative that getting Canada signals weakening U.S. influence.
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