#012 - Kubernetes for Humans Podcast with Hans Kristian Flaatten (NAV)
Dec 13, 2023
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Hans Kristian Flaatten from NAV discusses their cloud native journey, DSL for app deployment challenges, responsibilities in money processing organizations, and upcoming industry trends like platform editing, WebAssembly, and serverless functions in Kubernetes.
NAV's focus on developer autonomy in Kubernetes platform management leads to agile deployment.
NAV anticipates industry trends like open telemetry and WebAssembly for enhanced efficiency and sustainability.
Deep dives
Cloud Native Journey in Norwegian Government's Labour and Welfare Administration
The podcast delves into the eight-year cloud native journey of the Norwegian government's Labour and Welfare Administration (NAV). As the largest government agency in Norway, NAV distributes one third of the Norwegian annual budget and has been enhancing its operations. The focus lies on leveraging test automation, deployment automation, and early adoption of containers to optimize efficiency.
Driving Agile Development Through Platform Responsibility & Developer Empowerment
The discussion highlights NAV's distinctive approach to platform management and application development. By emphasizing developer autonomy and responsibility, NAV's Kubernetes platform, NICE, enables agile and efficient deployment of services. The adoption of service-oriented architecture, event-driven systems, and developer-friendly DSLs signifies a robust commitment to modern, flexible application development.
Future Trends in Platform Development and Environmental Cost Considerations
The conversation concludes with insights into future industry trends and tech innovations. Predictions center around open telemetry, WebAssembly for serverless functions, and Kubernetes-driven API integrations. Emphasizing a focus on efficiency, agility, and environmental sustainability, NAV looks ahead to optimizing platform operations and reducing costs through resource optimization and environmentally conscious practices.
Hans does Platform Engineering at the Norwegian Labour and Welfare Administration (NAV) responsible for the NAIS platform. NAIS is an application platform built to increase development speed by providing our developers at NAV with the best possible tools to develop and run their applications.
Previously Chief Consultant and DevOps Practice Lead for TietoEVRY where he drove culture and competency building for DevOps, Site Reliability Engineering (SRE), and Cloud Native practices internally and for customers in public government, telecom, banking, and insurance sectors.
Open Source, DevOps, and Cloud Native evangelist. Member of the Node.js Foundation where Hans manages the test and release of official Node.js versions and the official Docker Image for Node.js with 10M+ downloads. Organiser of DevOps Bergen, Bergen NoSQL User Groups, and Co-Organiser of the DevOps Days Oslo Conference.
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