Chelsea Follett, author of Centers of Progress, 40 Cities That Changed the World, joins us to discuss the topic of human progress and how cities emerged as centers of progress for humanity. Chelsea's book takes listeners on an intellectual and historical tour of cities' golden ages, providing a fascinating exploration of the rise and fall of different cities, and their profound impact on progress and freedom. From lesser-known places to globally renowned metropolises, the conversation delves into the surprising innovations and achievements that have shaped our world. The discussion also uncovers the universal conditions for progress, challenging preconceived notions about the drivers of societal advancement. Through thought-provoking insights and engaging anecdotes, they shed light on the undeniable link between urbanization, autonomy, and the human experience. Join us as we embark on a journey through history, unraveling the intricate connection between cities, freedom, and progress, and uncovering the enduring influence of urban environments on the pursuit of prosperity and liberty.

Chelsea Follett is the managing editor of HumanProgress.org, a project of the Cato Institute that seeks to educate the public on the global improvements in well‐being by providing free empirical data on long‐term developments.

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