Host Michael Taft talks with meditation teacher and author Henry Shukman about love, original love vs. original sin, wellbeing intense enough to be called “blessedness,” seeing your original face outside of time, the four zones of love, experience as inseparable boundless space, experiencing love as the purpose of our lives, and much more.

Henry Shukman is founder of the Original Love meditation program, spiritual director emeritus at Mountain Cloud Zen Center in Santa Fe, NM, and the author of several award-winning books of poetry and fiction. His newest book Original Love: the Four Inns on the Path of Awakening (HarperOne) is released in July 2024. Henry has taught at Google, Harvard Business School, the Institute of American Indian Arts and Oxford Brookes University. His poetry has been featured in the New Yorker, Sunday Times, and Guardian, and his essays in the New York Times and Outside. He has an M.A. from Cambridge and an MLitt from St Andrews. Henry is co-founder of The Way, a meditation app that offers a unique zero-choice path of deep meditation training.

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