Today’s guest is Frankie Thorogood, an entrepreneur who has navigated the intersections of creativity, business, and sports. Frankie shares his insights on finding fulfillment, balancing ambition with self-acceptance, and how creativity has played a pivotal role in his personal and professional life.

Frankie’s reflections bring insight into the complexities of leadership, balancing ambition with fulfillment, and finding joy in the process of creation.

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Frankie reads from Tricks of the Mind by Derren Brown, focusing on the idea of how we can reshape our thinking to redefine our limitations. [Reading begins at 24:00]

Hear us discuss:

"I don’t remember a lot of the times that I didn’t win, or I shift the memory and manipulate it so that I feel like I did win, even when I didn’t." [05:00] | "The goalposts very quickly shifted. All of a sudden, I needed more." [08:00] | "One thing, very work-specific, is letting go of the need to grow at all costs. I realized that if you're happy with your business and you enjoy the work, why push for relentless growth?" [13:00] | "I’ve tried to set a principle for myself: not to say yes to things out of guilt or fear. Do I want to attend this event? The answer is no, because I just don’t want to; I’d rather be at home." [15:00]

204. Climbing a Mountain: Frankie Thorogood [reads] “Tricks of the Mind”