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“Charlie Kirk’s Secret Plan to Take Over America” with Dr Matthew Boedy

Oct 16, 2025
Dr. Matthew Boedy, a former journalist and assistant professor, dives into the chilling influence of the Seven Mountains Mandate on American politics. He reveals how Charlie Kirk's Turning Point USA aims to reshape culture by targeting dissenters, establishing a visible Christian presence in key societal areas. The discussion explores the movement's surprising reach, its connection to the January 6th insurrection, and how education is being reshaped with Christian narratives. Boedy connects these dots to the broader critique of a growing authoritarianism masked as divine mission.
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Seven Spheres Of Cultural Power

  • The Seven Mountains framework targets seven cultural sectors to reclaim American life for a specific Protestant-infused Christianity.
  • Matthew Boedy explains the seven mountains are education, government, religion, family, business, media, and entertainment.
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Culture War As Cosmic Battle

  • The movement reframes cultural battles as cosmic struggles with God on their side and evil on the other.
  • Boedy warns this elevates tactics from persuasion to a mission that justifies extreme measures for victory.
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A Significant Minority Embraces Christian Nationalism

  • Polling suggests around 30% of Americans endorse key tenets of Christian nationalism, making it politically significant.
  • Boedy notes adherents may accept minority status because they see themselves as divinely chosen and thus justified in seeking power.
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