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RWH045: Real Success w/ Christopher Tsai

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May 26, 2024

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Christopher Tsai

In this engaging discussion, Christopher Tsai, President & Chief Investment Officer of Tsai Capital, shares his impressive track record of outperforming the S&P 500. He reveals why Tesla is his largest investment and explores how disruptive technologies are often underestimated by investors. Tsai reflects on the challenges of living up to his father's legacy as a pioneering fund manager, the vital habits that drive his success, and the lessons learned from mentors like Charlie Munger and Peter Kaufman. Tune in for insights on resilience, investment strategies, and personal growth!

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ANECDOTE

Ruth's Escape

Christopher Tsai's grandmother, Ruth, forged his father's passport to escape war-torn China.
She later became the first woman to trade on the Shanghai Stock Exchange.

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Market Uncertainty

When the Japanese invaded, Ruth's trading halted, highlighting market uncertainties.
This instilled the importance of capital preservation in the Tsai family.

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Ruth's Resourcefulness

Before fleeing China, Ruth sold her farm's topsoil to recoup her investment.
She used the money to buy jewelry, which she hid in her hair to smuggle it out.

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The Rise and Fall of a Pioneering Investor

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Strategic Success in Fund Management

30:55 • 4min

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Contrasting Investment Philosophies

34:37 • 16min

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Investing Through Proustian Lenses

51:00 • 23min

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Navigating Investment Decisions Amid Market Uncertainty

01:14:20 • 5min

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Navigating Market Downturns

01:18:51 • 4min

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Finding Balance: A Routine for Success

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Reflections on Family and Identity

01:27:05 • 13min

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The Legacy of Kindness: Mr. Rogers and Social Justice

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Resilience and the Power of Rejection

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Formative Experiences and Financial Identity

01:47:38 • 19min

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Art, Investment, and Personal Growth

02:06:40 • 21min

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In this episode, William Green chats with Christopher Tsai, President & Chief Investment Officer of Tsai Capital. Christopher, who’s beaten the S&P 500 over the last 24 years, explains why Tesla is his biggest position; why investors routinely underestimate the impact of disruptive technologies; why it was so challenging to be the son of America’s first celebrity fund manager; what 3 habits help him most; & what he learned from his famed mentors, Peter Kaufman & Charlie Munger.

IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:

00:00 - Intro

04:15 - How Christopher Tsai’s family survived war & oppression in China.

18:02 - How his father became America’s first celebrity fund manager.

21:38 - What lessons Christopher drew from his father’s successes & failures.

39:51 - Why Tesla is Christopher’s biggest investment.

46:32 - Why we tend to underestimate the impact of disruptive technologies.

57:31 - Why the costliest mistake is to sell great compounders too early.

1:07:08 - What tailwinds he’s riding with Microsoft, Visa, & Mastercard.

1:14:21 - How his views on diversification have changed.

1:16:36 - What 3 habits help him to be focused, peaceful, & productive.

1:43:01 - How he became a money manager at 16.

1:57:07 - What Peter Kaufman taught him about the 7 steps to success.

2:06:48 - Why Christopher won’t invest in China.

2:10:41 - What Charlie Munger taught him.

Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences.

BOOKS AND RESOURCES

Christopher Tsai’s investment firm, Tsai Capital.
Christopher Tsai’s white paper on Investing in an Age of Disruption.
Christopher Tsai’s white paper on The Power & Challenges of Compounding.
Marcel Proust’s In Search of Lost Time.
Adam Seesel’s Where the Money Is.
Maxwell King’s The Good Neighbor.
William Green’s podcast episode with Peter Keefe | YouTube Video.
William Green’s book, “Richer, Wiser, Happier” – read the reviews of this book.
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