Seeing The Future from AI Companions to Personal Software

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Nov 5, 2025

Eugenia Kuyda, founder and CEO of Wabi and AI pioneer behind Replika, discusses her vision for transforming personal software into an accessible medium for everyone. She explains how command-line AI interfaces are outdated and emphasizes the potential for mini-apps to become shareable tools, much like TikToks. Kuyda shares insights from her decade of experience in AI, offers a glimpse into her early days at OpenAI, and critiques voice-only devices, advocating instead for a visually interactive and personalized experience.

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Chatbots Are Just The MS‑DOS Of AI

Chatbots are the MS-DOS era for AI interfaces and limit users to search and writing tasks.
A visual, interactive OS-like layer will unlock richer, discoverable AI use cases.

INSIGHT

Personalized OS Built On You

Software will shift from developer-built apps to user-created, highly personal mini apps.
The OS of the future will surface popular apps, friends' apps, and AI-suggested personal apps.

ANECDOTE

Built A Kids Puzzle App In Minutes

Eugenia built a custom puzzle app for her daughter in two minutes and tailored it to Italian preschool themes.
The quick tweakability made the app far more useful than hunting the App Store for a fit.

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Eugenia Kuyda, CEO of Wabi and AI pioneer behind Replika, joins Erik, Anish, and Justine to reveal how personal software will transform from a developer monopoly to a creative medium for all. She exposes why command-line AI interfaces are the new MS-DOS, explains how mini-apps will become as shareable as TikToks, and details her decade-long journey from training language models in 2012 to building the platform where your mom can create custom apps in minutes. Plus: untold stories from OpenAI's apartment days and why voice-only devices completely miss the point.

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