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The Skeptics Guide to Emergency Medicine

SGEM#466: I Love ROC-n-Roll…But Not When It’s Hacked

Jan 25, 2025
Dr. Jestin Carlson, a prominent figure in emergency medicine education, discusses the importance of engaging learning experiences, showcasing a dynamic course that reviews over 200 medical articles in exciting locales. The conversation shifts to the intricacies of ROC curves, emphasizing their role in evaluating medical tests while uncovering issues like p-hacking. Carlson advocates for transparency in research and stresses the need to consider various factors in clinical models, urging a skeptical approach to medical literature to improve patient care.
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Quick takeaways

  • ROC curves are essential for evaluating diagnostic tests, but arbitrary AUC value thresholds can mislead clinical interpretation and decision-making.
  • The podcast stresses the importance of transparency in research and a holistic approach beyond AUC values to improve clinical prediction models.

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Understanding ROC Curves and AUC

Receiver Operating Characteristic (ROC) curves are essential tools for evaluating the diagnostic performance of medical tests, illustrating the relationship between true positive rates and false positive rates. The area under the curve (AUC) quantifies a model's discriminatory capacity, with values ranging from 0.5, indicating no better than random chance, to 1.0, signifying perfect accuracy. Many studies categorize AUC values into arbitrary descriptors like fair, good, or excellent, which can mislead researchers and clinicians alike. These arbitrary thresholds can tempt researchers into practices such as p-hacking, where data is manipulated to achieve desired results.

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