The Good Fight Francis Fukuyama on Global Chaos (and Why You Don't Need to Despair About It)
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Jul 6, 2024 
Political scientist Francis Fukuyama talks with Yascha Mounk about the French far-right's success, Biden's debate woes, and global democracy challenges. They delve into the Ukraine-Russia conflict, potential outcomes for Joe Biden, and the state of democracy worldwide.
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Le Pen's 'Detox' Is Political Calculation
- Marine Le Pen moved to the center to win votes and shed her party's extremist legacy.
- Fukuyama says sincerity is the wrong question because politicians adjust to public sentiment.
Macron Failed To Build A Durable Party
- Emmanuel Macron centralized power and failed to build a durable party infrastructure across France.
- Fukuyama argues Macron's personalism left no organization to survive his decline.
Institutions Beat Charisma Long-Term
- Durable political change requires institution-building, not just charismatic victories.
- Fukuyama contrasts short-term wins by leaders with the hard work of creating lasting institutions.