Taylor Payne is the host of your go-to Newcastle United podcast from The Athletic and he's joined, as always, by the dedicated, dynamic duo Chris Waugh and George Caulkin.

We're confused by feelings of positivity this week and, while a 1-1 draw at Anfield may not have quite the same gloss in 2021 as it would any other season, we had great fun watching the messy madness unfold.

Newcastle face another ESL team next and with the help of a special guest, Athletic Arsenal correspondent Amy Lawrence, we mull over the success of Joe Willock's loan deal and the Gunners' current troubles (troubles which include winning a trophy and being in a European semi-final!).

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