Aaron Renn, author of 'Life in the Negative World', discusses the challenges faced by Christians in an anti-Christian culture. He explores the evolution of societal views on Christianity and offers strategies for maintaining faithfulness. Topics include the Three Worlds Model, navigating cultural shifts, decentralized communities, blockchain as a metaphor, and fostering anti-fragility.
Elite culture views Christianity negatively in modern times, contrasting with past acceptance.
Christianity needs to become countercultural rather than seeking mere relevance or withdrawal.
Adaptation, exploration, and high-trust networks are crucial for Christians navigating a hostile cultural environment.
Deep dives
Aaron Ren's Background in Consulting and Policy Analysis
Aaron Ren discusses his background growing up in rural Indiana, transitioning from a career in management consulting to focusing on public policy, especially urban issues. He shares his interest in the future of the evangelical church, particularly in reaching out to men online influencers, noting a shift in how young men engage with church compared to secular figures like Jordan Peterson and Joe Rogan.
Evolution of Christianity's Perception in Society
Aaron Ren outlines three distinct phases in how Christianity has been viewed in American society: the positive world (1964-1994) where Christianity was generally positively perceived, the neutral world (1994-2014) where Christianity was seen on par with other lifestyle choices, and the negative world (2014 onwards) where Christianity is viewed negatively or skeptically by elite culture.
Interaction with Rod Dreher's Benedict Option
Aaron Ren acknowledges Rod Dreher's Benedict Option model and highlights its similarity to his own ideas, emphasizing the need for Christians to shift towards being a countercultural presence rather than just seeking relevance, transformation, or withdrawal. He appreciates critiques directed at Dreher's model and offers his framework as an evangelical variation of the Benedict Option.
Impact of Cultural Changes on Society
Aaron Ren points out significant cultural shifts, particularly during Obama's second term, that included transformations in sexuality norms such as the legalization of gay marriage and increased discussions around white supremacy and structural racism. He highlights these changes as influencing the perception and treatment of Christianity, leading to a more hostile environment for evangelicals.
Adapting to the Negative World
Aaron Ren provides strategic recommendations for navigating the negative world, encouraging a posture of exploration, a shift towards countercultural identity, and proactive engagement in politics, culture, and society. He emphasizes the need for high-trust networks and less legible forms of organization to stay resilient and adaptable in a changing environment.
In this episode, we welcome Aaron Renn, author of Life in the Negative World: Confronting Challenges in an Anti-Christian Culture, to explore the profound shifts in cultural attitudes towards Christianity and the broader implications for faith in the modern era. Renn, with a diverse background ranging from management and technology consulting as a Partner at Accenture, to urban policy as a Senior Fellow at the Manhattan Institute for Policy Research, and now a Senior Fellow at American Reformer, brings a unique perspective to the discussion. His extensive work has been featured in globally recognized publications such as The Guardian, The Wall Street Journal, and The Atlantic.
Life in the Negative World considers the dramatic changes in societal views on Christianity, tracing the journey from the mid-twentieth century—when church attendance was at its peak—to the present day, where professing Christian beliefs often results in social demotion within elite circles. Renn examines the transition from a once Christianity-affirming society to one that is, at best, indifferent, and at worst, hostile to Christian morals and teachings. In our conversation, he articulates the lessons learned from over seven decades of Christian cultural engagement, offering insightful strategies for churches, institutions, and individuals to maintain their faithfulness in an increasingly adversarial environment.
This episode is not just a reflection on the challenges faced by modern Christians but also a guide on how to navigate these tumultuous waters with grace, resilience, and a deepened faith. Renn emphasizes the necessity for a diverse array of strategies to engage missionally with a world that often seems at odds with Christian values. Whether you’re a person of faith struggling to find your place in this “negative world,” a church leader seeking direction for your community, or simply interested in the evolving relationship between religion and society, this conversation with Aaron Renn offers valuable insights and hope for the path forward.
Join us as we discuss the implications of living out one’s faith in an era that increasingly marginalizes Christian perspectives, and discover how to embrace the challenges of the negative world with courage and conviction.