Most people, if they had zero clients, would throw in the towel.

A very, very few would decide that it’s time to massively scale.

When you’re scaling, how do you cross the normal revenue hurdles as well as ensure that process and structure can scale without restricting growth or creativity or innovation?

Today we're joined by Johnathan Grzybowski, CMO and cofounder of Penji, an on-demand graphic design service, about how he turned his failing business around in a little over a year.

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Previous guests include: Eric Shaver, Managing Partner at Kensei Partners, Harry Spaight, Founder of the Selling with Dignity, Jeroen Corthout, Co-Founder at Salesfare

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