“Living is easy with eyes closed

Misunderstanding all you see

It’s getting hard to be someone but it all works out

It doesn’t matter much to me”

How do lyrics from “Strawberry Fields Forever” become a doorway to a conversation about conflict and creativity? Ian Leslie, bestselling author, thought leader in human behaviour, and Beatles nerd digs into the art of productive conflict, ridiculous standards, and the magic of Sir George Martin. Get book links and resources at https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/

Ian reads from the book ‘Revolution in the Head’ by Ian MacDonald. [Reading begins at 8:13]

Listen to this episode to learn:

“Demanding the impossible.” [18:07] | Understanding productive conflict. [20:11] | “Conflict is essential to creativity and innovation.” [22:20] | Staying present in heated moments. [23:46] | The link between conflict and curiosity. [26:46] | Managing egos during disagreements. [30:09]

11. Conflict & Curiosity: Ian Leslie x ‘Revolution in the Head’