

From Billion-Dollar Brands to Fifth Quarter Revenue: Media’s New Playbook
Profit is one of the most pressing, and rapidly evolving, challenges in today’s media landscape. In this special compilation episode of The Media Machine, we dive into how companies and creators are rethinking monetization, ad revenues, and growth strategies in a shifting economy.
Featuring industry leaders like Cathy Hackl, Sean Atkins, Larry Jones, Alan Wolk, Evan Shapiro, and Stuart Snyder, the conversation dives into how media companies can monetize in an era shaped by gaming, AI, and immersive tech. Discover the secrets behind scaling billion-dollar businesses, the evolution of streaming profits, the challenges of ad-supported models, and whether the current sports content boom is a strategic move or a bubble waiting to burst. Whether you’re a creator, entrepreneur, or media executive, this episode offers critical lessons on the business side of storytelling and innovation.
In this episode we revisit:
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Cathy Hackl walks us through how to monetize future tech like gaming, AI, and immersive platforms.
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Sean Atkins shares how he found a “fifth quarter” of revenue by repurposing creator content with 5th Quarter Agency.
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Evan Shapiro explains why massive sports-rights spending is creating a bubble.
SHOW NOTES
00:00 Introduction to Media Profits
00:30 Exploring Revenue Models in Media
01:18 Blueprints for Future Media Monetization
03:28 Dhar Mann's Fifth Quarter Agency
06:39 New Streaming Models and Bundling
10:13 The Challenges of Netflix’s Ad Tier
14:01 The Sports Gold Rush: Strategy or Bubble?
16:53 Scaling to a Billion Dollars in Revenue at Cartoon Network and Adult Swim
19:59 Conclusion, Future Insights and Credits
CREDITS
The Media Machine is hosted by Johanna Salazar. Our producers are Johanna Salazar and Mia Vinciguerra. This episode was edited by Adriana Saravia and Mia Vinciguerra. Our show art was designed by Gabriel Pareja. This episode features music, graphics and visuals from Envato Elements.
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PODCAST LINKS
Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-media-machine/id1805996037
Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/66NrkMVorc47Ov6qDsvfwn
Amazon Music - https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/d9671a97-b026-45a5-8cf0-1e389f052b9e/the-media-machine
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ABOUT THE PODCAST
This is The Media Machine - where media, business and innovation intersect. Host Johanna Salazar will explore the future of content, technology, and entertainment through the lens of four key pillars - process, profits, people and planet. Through insightful conversations with visionaries, disruptors, and pioneers, The Media Machine unpacks the challenges and opportunities shaping the next era of media.
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