
Closing the Loop with Andrew Camel
The legal justice argument for GenAI to exist in law with Maura Grossman
What happens to evidence in the world of deepfakes? Does the NY Times have a reasonable complaint about OpenAI training on their content? How do you prevent someone maliciously generating cases at scale? Maura practiced law for 17 years, was a pioneer in eDiscovery, and is now a professor of computer science, and is incredible well-read and thoughtful on all these big questions.
Topics Covered:
(10:38) Why do you need to disclose that you use eDiscovery tools, and not e.g. Google search? Where is that line drawn?
(16:06) Is there a standard test by which people evaluate tools to determine if they should be approved or not?
(17:59) Why was the case about ChatGPT-created citations actually worse than most perceive?
(21:00) How did you then see judges respond to this event?
(23:48) Where will the line be drawn between disallow entirely or just disclose?
(33:02) In the genAI curve of acceptance, where are we?
(35:32) Evidence and deepfakes
(41:28) What will the legal profession look like in this new world?
(44:09) Do publishers have any recourse for models being trained on their data?