The State of It

Bonus episode: Flying to China with the PM

Jan 28, 2026
A plane-bound behind-the-scenes tale of press huddles and an impromptu loo interview. Security rituals get unpacked, from burner phones to no smartwatches. The tricky balance between trade ambitions and human-rights and espionage risks is explored. Travel logistics, business delegates and cultural stops in Beijing add color to the trip.
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ANECDOTE

Toilet Huddle Chaos

  • Journalists crowded into a tiny space, with some even in the plane toilet to question the Prime Minister.
  • The huddle was surreal and largely inaudible, forcing reliance on phone recordings and collaborative reconstruction.
INSIGHT

Lobby System Keeps Coverage Coordinated

  • The lobby system coordinates questions and staggers story publication to serve all outlets fairly.
  • Stephen Swinford says this ecosystem prevents embargo busting and helps distribute scoops across deadlines.
INSIGHT

High Surveillance Means Tight Digital Hygiene

  • Security advice on the trip was extreme: burner phones, burner laptops and avoiding smartwatches.
  • Stephen Swinford warns that charging via USB is risky because foreign services can exploit data ports.
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