This week, we have two incredible divorce stories from the entertainment world. First up, Stacie has the 2015 split of celebrity chef Bobby Flay and Law and Order: SVU actress Stephanie March. This divorce is one of the ways that Stacie learned to love divorce stories.

Then Alicia has a reality television couple who were plus eight, until they were minus each other: Kate and Jon Gosselin. Learn about Alicia’s mental construct of “the dude,” and how Jon’s incessant dude-ing made it impossible to be the husband and father his family deserved.

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S4E2: Video | Stephanie March and Bobby Flay & Kate and Jon Gosselin