The Daily Beans Refried Beans | Bushtit (feat. Glenn Kirschner) | 11/28/2023
Nov 30, 2025
Glenn Kirschner, a former federal prosecutor and legal analyst, dives into critical legal topics surrounding Trump’s multiple trials. He discusses the likely sequence of these trials, arguing that the D.C. trial will probably take precedence. The conversation also spans potential appeals regarding presidential immunity and double jeopardy, and how the Supreme Court might avoid undermining its own authority. Additionally, there's a spotlight on Hunter Biden's upcoming public testimony and the political machinations surrounding George Santos’s potential expulsion.
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Pence's Granular Cooperation With Investigation
- Mike Pence provided detailed, granular testimony to Special Counsel Jack Smith about post-2020 events and his interactions with Trump.
- Pence's notes and book passages became focal points for investigators seeking to confirm what he knew and when.
Pence's Handwritten Doubt And His Son's Intervention
- Allison recounts Pence's handwritten note that he considered skipping the Electoral College certification because it would be "too hurtful to my friend."
- Pence's son reminded him of his oath and duty, which persuaded him to attend on January 6th.
Ohio Ruling Lets New Maps Stand
- Ohio's Supreme Court dismissed challenges to new legislative maps citing bipartisan adoption as a changed circumstance.
- Justice Jennifer Brunner warned the decision risks empowering partisan map-drawing without constitutional review.
