ThirdPath Institute Founder Jessica Degroot joins us to talk about making time for work, family, and play. We discuss "The New Normal" where dads AND moms are thinking creatively to find ways to be successful in our careers, to be the parents we want to be, and to find time for ourselves. We also talk about the upcoming season of Thursdays with Thirdpath, a monthly webinar series that will focus on men's stories to demonstrate an integrated approach to work and life.

The Parents Phrase Book author Whit Honea joins after the discussion to talk about the ways he and his wife continue to negotiate these issues as they both pursue meaningful careers and parent their two boys.