'The boss is not going to leave under any circumstances'
Nov 18, 2023
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NYU's Melissa Murray joins the podcast to discuss leaked videos of Trump lawyers in the Georgia election interference case. They talk about the potential consequences in court and the court of public opinion. They also discuss admissions from Trump lawyer Sidney Powell about her knowledge of election fraud. The rejection of Trump lawyers' attempt to limit mentions of January 6 violence in the trial is highlighted. The prospect of additional guilty pleas in the Georgia election interference case is also covered.
Leaked confidential videos of former Trump lawyers reveal Trump's desire to stay in power under any circumstance, potentially impacting the Georgia election interference case.
Leaked interviews of defendants in the Georgia case provide crucial insights into the activities of key Trump lawyers and support the prosecution's claim of a far-reaching conspiracy to overturn the election results.
Deep dives
Leaked Videos Could Impact Georgia Election Interference Case
The main focus of this week's podcast episode is the leaked confidential videos of former Trump lawyers, which have the potential to shake up the Georgia election interference case. These videos reveal conversations inside the White House between Election Day and Inauguration Day, shedding light on Trump's state of mind and his desire to stay in power. One key video features Jenna Ellis, a former Trump lawyer, recounting a conversation with senior White House official Dan Scavino, where they expressed their intention to remain in power regardless of the circumstances. While these videos could damage Trump, they could also be used to undermine the prosecution's case. Fulton County District Attorney, Fawni Willis, expressed displeasure over the release of the videos and filed for a protective order. Despite the potential impact, the leaked videos highlight the complex dynamics of the Georgia case and the importance of the upcoming trial.
Key Revelations from Georgia Plea Deal Interviews
One of the most interesting developments in the Georgia election interference case is the leaked interviews of defendants who have taken plea deals. These interviews, part of the cooperation agreement with prosecutors, provide crucial insights into the activities of key Trump lawyers, Sidney Powell and Jenna Ellis. The leaked videos reveal conversations where Jenna Ellis heard from a Trump aide that the boss wasn't going to leave office under any circumstances. While these videos could potentially be damaging to Trump, his legal team downplays their significance, highlighting that Trump did eventually leave office. The leaked videos also feature Kenneth Chesebrough discussing his role in promoting fake electors in battleground states. These revelations support the prosecution's claim of a far-reaching conspiracy to overturn the election results. As the trial in Georgia approaches, more guilty pleas and revealing interviews are expected, further shaping the case.
The Relevance of January 6th and Leaked Tapes
The events of January 6th, 2021, continue to have a significant impact on the legal trials related to former President Trump. While Special Counsel Jack Smith chose not to file insurrection or incitement charges tied to the Capitol violence, references to January 6th are crucial in establishing the conspiracy to obstruct official proceedings. Leaked videos from the Georgia case feature conversations that show Trump's state of mind regarding staying in power. These videos might be politically damaging for Trump, but his legal team seeks to distance him from any association with the violence. The leaked tapes also reveal lawyers admitting their lack of knowledge about election law, potentially undermining their credibility. The political and legal pressures are mounting as trial dates draw near, and the trial's connection to January 6th ensures it remains a focal point in public opinion and legal proceedings.
This week, Scott Detrow and NPR political editor/correspondent Domenico Montanaro discuss leaked confidential videos of two former Trump lawyers and what those videos could mean for the Georgia election interference case. Plus a new development in the January 6 case.
-The potential consequences of leaked videos in court — and the court of public opinion -Trump lawyer Sidney Powell admitting she 'didn't know much' about election fraud. -Why it matters that a judge rejected an attempt by Trump lawyers to limit mentions of January 6 violence in the election interference trial -The prospect of additional guilty pleas in the Georgia election interference case