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Jennifer Palmieri: Dems Are Winning the Shutdown Showdown (So Far)

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Oct 3, 2025
In a lively discussion, Jennifer Palmieri, former White House communications director for Obama, offers her insights on the recent government shutdown that distinguishes itself with its vindictive nature. She argues that Democrats are effectively leveraging the situation, especially through a focus on healthcare. Palmieri critiques GOP tactics, noting how their missteps aid Democratic narratives. Additionally, she speculates on the positioning of potential 2028 candidates and the evolving political landscape, emphasizing the need for unifying leaders.
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ANECDOTE

Chestnut-Related Injury On A Hike

  • Jennifer Palmieri fractured her ankle and two fingers in a hike with her new rescue dog, Chestnut.
  • She calls the injury "Chestnut-related" and describes the dog's puppy energy.
INSIGHT

This Shutdown Feels Punitive And New

  • This shutdown differs because Republicans may use it to punish political targets and dismantle programs.
  • Palmieri highlights canceling of clean-energy projects and firing threats as unusual and vindictive.
INSIGHT

Healthcare Is The Smart Leverage

  • Democrats saw the shutdown as leverage to fight specific health-care cuts tied to the "big beautiful bill."
  • Jennifer Palmieri argues healthcare is the right political terrain because Trump is weak on it and it directly affects voters' wallets.
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