The Joe Rogan Experience

#2211 - Michael Shellenberger

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Oct 9, 2024
Michael Shellenberger, an investigative journalist and environmental advocate, shares his insights on censorship and the state of democracy in Brazil. He discusses the complex political climate, highlighting challenges around misinformation and the balance of free speech. The conversation deepens with reflections on vaccine efficacy, public trust in science, and the implications of elitist control in society. Shellenberger also explores the potential of psychedelics for trauma recovery and critiques modern societal narratives on addiction and victimhood.
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ANECDOTE

Twitter Files Brazil

  • Michael Shellenberger discusses the Twitter Files Brazil and Elon Musk's response to censorship.
  • He describes attending a free speech protest in Sao Paulo with the former president.
INSIGHT

Shifting Politics

  • Joe Rogan expresses confusion about Brazilian politics, having heard Lula was "for the people."
  • Shellenberger explains his past support for Lula and the left's shift towards censorship.
ANECDOTE

Lula's Broken Promise

  • Shellenberger recounts interviewing Lula in 1994 and Lula's denial of intending to censor like Cuba.
  • He expresses disillusionment at Lula's subsequent defense of censorship.
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