Conversations with David J. Temple Values: First Takes featuring Ken Wilber
In this conversation, Marc Gafni, Ken Wilber, and Zak Stein discuss the relationship between desire and value. They explore different perspectives on desire, ranging from it being a degraded condition to it being a deed that can be controlled. They argue that desire is a condition and that clarifying desire is a way to honor its dignity. They also discuss the concept of value and its connection to prehension, emphasizing that value is both a product and a cause of prehension. They introduce the term 'Eros value' to describe the interplay between desire and value. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the need for a new language and grammar of value.
00:00 Exploring the Concept of Value
04:40 The Role of Holons and Desire
09:01 Chemistry as the Music of Desire
12:43 The Periodic Table of Desire Value
17:23 Understanding Will and Desire
23:00 The Dignity of Desire
31:26 Desire as a Condition
36:18 Value as a Product and Cause of Prehension
45:27 Introducing Eros Value
49:58 The Need for a New Language and Grammar of Value