This episode finds Chris in conversation with his old friend and colleague Alex Steele. Alex is a professional jazz musician as well as being a visiting Professor and Fellow at business schools and universities. He is a coach and an academic specialising in environmental matters. This episode takes a playful deep dive into Alex’s work, including its roots in his family where music was the first language. Alex talks about how his jazz improvisational work helps leaders in organisational life to develop deep and heartfelt collaboration skills that allow them to work differently with uncertainty. This episode concludes with a lovely piece of jazz improv from Alex at the keyboard.