The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by Charles Barkley to discuss their excitement for the NFL season, the new chips on Jaylen Brown's and Jayson Tatum's shoulders (1:20), feelings on the 2023-24 NBA season, a retooled Western Conference, 2024-25 NBA sleeper teams, NBA player movement (22:53), WNBA discourse, stories from Barkley's career, the uncertain future of 'Inside the NBA,' and more (52:19)!

Host: Bill Simmons

Guest: Charles Barkley

Producer: Kyle Crichton

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