Moonshots with Peter Diamandis Our Updated AGI Timeline, 57% Job Automation Risk, and Solving the US Debt Crisis w/ Naveen Jain, Salim Ismail & Alexander Wisner-Gross | EP #212
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Dec 4, 2025 
Naveen Jain, founder of Viome Life Sciences, highlights personalized health breakthroughs; while Salim Ismail, founder of OpenExO, shares insights on AI's role in transforming industries. Dr. Alexander Wissner-Gross, a computer scientist, discusses the complexities of aligning AI with moral values. The trio dives into job automation risks, solutions for the U.S. debt crisis through AI, and the implications of recent advancements in medical technology, including cancer screening and CRISPR therapies. It's a thought-provoking conversation blending health, tech, and economics!
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Naveen's Antarctica Trip
- Naveen returned from a six-day Antarctica trip with his family and joked he technically didn't bring back meteorites.
- The hosts used the moment to welcome Naveen as a new Moonshot mate.
Scaling Hits Diminishing Returns
- Scaling alone won't take us all the way to superintelligence; new algorithmic advances are required.
- Ilya Sutskever and Alex Wissner-Gross argue we are entering a renewed age of research beyond raw compute scaling.
Models Trained With 'Soul' Documents
- Frontier labs are explicitly embedding value systems into models, sometimes treating them as moral clients or persons.
- Different labs encoding different constitutions raises hard questions around who chooses AI values and rights.
