Author and New York Magazine writer Emily Gould joins Sarah and Miranda to discuss her controversial personal essay, The Lure of Divorce, published in The Cut last month. We tackle the current divorce discourse, the work it takes to support our own mental health, what it’s like to write so intimately and so publicly at the same time, and whether it’s “basic” to be married right now.

LINKS:

Emily’s piece The Lure of Divorce in the Cut

Excerpt from Leslie Jamison’s Splinters in the New Yorker

Emily’s profile of Adelle Waldman’s “Help Wanted”

All Fours by Miranda July

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