Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal Joscha Bach Λ Ben Goertzel: Conscious Ai, LLMs, AGI
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Oct 17, 2023 
Joscha Bach, an expert in consciousness and AI, teams up with Ben Goertzel, a pioneer in artificial general intelligence, to explore the depths of AI and consciousness. They discuss the challenges and limitations of large language models and the paradox of consciousness during anesthesia. Their conversation delves into philosophical implications of AGI, hybrid architectures for enhanced AI creativity, and the potential societal impacts of superintelligent AI, raising thought-provoking questions about our future with technology and the nature of awareness.
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Computation and Reality
- Joscha Bach argues that thinking occurs within language, limiting its reference to itself.
- Meaningful language must avoid contradictions, implying a computational basis for reality.
Peirce's Metaphysical Categories
- Ben Goertzel uses Charles Peirce's metaphysical categories to argue for a broader view of reality.
- He emphasizes the role of qualia (firstness), reaction (secondness), and relationships (thirdness).
Commodore 64 Programming
- Joscha Bach recounts learning to program on a Commodore 64, drawing lines from basic principles.
- This experience shaped his computationalist view, seeing math and reality mirroring computer processes.