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196. 2024: A year of living more dangerously in cyberspace.

Dec 31, 2024
Jenn White, host of 1A and a skilled journalist from NPR, speaks with Bill Browder, a financier and human rights advocate known for his stand against Russian corruption. They dive into the rising cyber threats from China and Russia, highlighting strategic attacks targeting U.S. interests. Browder emphasizes the urgent need for global support for Ukraine amid ongoing Russian aggression and discusses complex geopolitical dynamics, including military aid and the future of NATO. This conversation reveals the pressing challenges both governments and nations face in cyberspace.
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  • China's shift from traditional espionage to more strategic hacking, including targeting critical infrastructure, raises significant national security concerns.
  • The ongoing conflict in Ukraine requires consistent international support, as reduced aid could jeopardize Ukraine's defense against Russian aggression.

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China's Increasing Cyber Aggression

China has escalated its cyber operations significantly, moving beyond traditional espionage to more strategic hacking that aligns with its geopolitical objectives. This shift became evident when U.S. officials discovered Chinese hackers infiltrating critical infrastructure, such as water treatment facilities and airport networks, suggesting a preparation for potential conflict with the U.S. The Volt Typhoon group is identified as a key player in this approach, using malicious code to create persistent access to essential services. As a result, there are rising concerns about the implications for national security, especially regarding future military tensions, particularly with Taiwan.

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