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The New Statesman | UK politics and culture

How do you solve a problem like Margaret Thatcher?

Feb 3, 2025
Rachel Cooke, the New Statesman's sharp TV critic, and Rob Burley, an accomplished TV producer and author, dive into the tumultuous 1989 interview with Margaret Thatcher that led to her political decline. They discuss the portrayal of Thatcher on screen, especially Harriet Walter's compelling performance in 'Brian and Maggie.' The conversation explores the evolution and decline of political interviews, contrasting past depth and current superficiality, while also examining the gender dynamics and complexities that shadow Thatcher's legacy in British politics.
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  • The 1989 interview between Thatcher and Walden highlighted her unexpected vulnerability, challenging perceptions of her dominant political persona.
  • The decline of long-form political interviews has reshaped political discourse, compromising public engagement and the accountability of politicians.

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The Impact of the Walden-Thatcher Interview

The interview between Margaret Thatcher and Brian Walden in 1989 marked a significant turning point in political interviews, showcasing Thatcher's unexpected vulnerability. During this encounter, Thatcher admitted she did not have the answer to a question, a rare moment that reversed the usual power dynamics she maintained in public discourse. This interview revealed a different side of Thatcher, challenging perceptions of her as a dominant political figure. The fallout from this confrontation triggered greater scrutiny of her leadership and contributed to the unraveling of her time in power.

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