The Word on Fire Show - Catholic Faith and Culture WOF 369: Was Vatican II a Failure?
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Jan 16, 2023 A discussion on whether Vatican II was a success or failure, examining its long-term effects and resistance. The concept of transfiguration is explored, and listeners are encouraged to read Vatican II documents.
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Council Was Necessary
- Bishop Robert Barron and Brandon Vogt agree Vatican II was necessary to engage the modern world and adapt to globalization and social change.
- The council represented the most ecumenical gathering and its leaders overwhelmingly supported reform to enable mission.
A Priest Who Witnessed The Council
- Bishop Barron recounts Fr. Bill Quinn, a priest who attended Vatican II and felt changes were desperately needed.
- Quinn's experience illustrates how pre-conciliar clergy saw reform as essential for mission.
Failure In Western Contexts
- Ross Douthat argues the council failed to achieve its own goals of evangelization and revitalization in the developed world.
- Bishop Barron agrees the council's aims largely didn't materialize in the West, noting declines in practice and belief.