

John Vervaeke & Paul Vander Klay
Jun 13, 2023
Minister Paul Vander Klay and cognitive scientist John Vervaeke discuss the meaning of "God" beyond the Christian vs. atheist debate. They explore theological concepts like love, ultimate existence, and highest value, reflecting on the characteristics of a post-secular age. The conversation delves into the challenges faced by Christian pastors in communicating complex ideas, the limits of language and perception when discussing ultimate reality, and the importance of different perspectives. They also touch on topics like surviving suffering, the clash of perspectives within Christianity, discerning the true and the good, and recognizing and respecting different loyalties.
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Introduction
00:00 • 2min
Exploring the Intersection Between Theology and Vervakey's Ideas
01:54 • 18min
Reevaluating the Concept of God
19:39 • 25min
Christianity, Tradition, and Language
44:29 • 16min
Limits of Language and Perception
01:00:41 • 20min
Surviving Suffering and Overcoming Idolism
01:20:21 • 3min
The Clash of Perspectives and the Question of Alignment
01:23:20 • 20min
Exploring the Symphony of Sages and the Search for Harmony
01:43:35 • 2min
Discerning the True and the Good
01:45:10 • 6min
Discussion on Appropriating the Infallible Word of God and Calvinism
01:51:04 • 2min
Recognizing and Respecting Loyalties
01:52:36 • 27min
Engagement and Gratitude: Supporting the Podcast and Holiday Wishes
02:19:26 • 3min