In this episode, they discuss Donald Trump and his co-defendants preparing to turn themselves in to Fulton County jail, Jen Psaki joining to preview the first debate and talk about how Joe Biden and Democrats should handle Trump's courtroom campaign. They also play a round of 2 Takes and a Fake. Topics include Ron DeSantis's struggle to appear human, the challenges for Republican consultants, and the implications of Republican officials in Georgia.
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Quick takeaways
Trump's involvement in the Georgia indictment poses challenges and highlights his obsession with winning the state, while also limiting his ability to seek pardons from the governor or himself.
Skipping the first Republican debate allows Trump to avoid attacks and control the narrative through rallies, connecting directly with his core base.
Ron DeSantis' super PAC's advice for the first debate reflects a strategy focused on undermining opponents and aligning with the Trump movement, raising questions about campaign influence and strategy.
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Key Point 1: The Georgia indictment puts Trump in a difficult political position as he is obsessed with winning the state and officials like Brian Kemp and Brad Raffensperger are not defending him.
The Georgia indictment poses challenges for Trump as it brings attention to his obsession with winning the state and how officials like Brian Kemp and Brad Raffensperger are not aligning themselves with him. It also highlights the fact that as a state case, Trump cannot pardon himself or seek a pardon from the governor, adding to the significance of the charges. Additionally, the indictment targets not only Trump, but also other Republicans, potentially leading them to flip and cooperate with the prosecution. Politically, this presents a unique situation for Trump, especially since Georgia is crucial for his presidential ambitions.
Key Point 2: Skipping the first Republican debate may be a strategic move for Trump as he avoids facing attacks from lower-polling candidates and focuses on rallies where he dominates media coverage.
By skipping the first Republican debate, Trump can avoid facing attacks from lower-polling candidates and potentially shift the focus to rallies, where he can dominate media coverage. Debating with candidates who are not close to his level of support may not provide any significant benefit for Trump. Instead, he can use rallies as a platform to communicate directly with his core base and control the narrative surrounding his campaign.
Key Point 3: Ron DeSantis' super PAC advice for the first debate includes attacking Joe Biden and the media, defending Donald Trump, and targeting Vivek Ramaswamy and Chris Christie.
Ron DeSantis' super PAC has provided advice for the first debate, instructing him to attack Joe Biden and the media multiple times, defend Donald Trump, and target Vivek Ramaswamy and Chris Christie. The advice reflects a strategy focused on undermining his opponents and aligning himself with the Trump movement. However, some of the suggested lines, such as calling Ramaswamy 'fake Vivek,' appear weak and lacking substance. The leaked advice raises questions about the super PAC's influence and DeSantis' campaign strategy.
Key Point 4: The moderators of the debate plan to address the Georgian indictment and Trump's involvement, potentially challenging the Republican candidates to respond.
Brett Baer and Martha McCallum, the moderators of the debate, have indicated they will address the Georgian indictment and Trump's involvement in it. This presents an opportunity for the Republican candidates to respond and address their stance on Trump's legal issues and his handling of democracy. While attacking Trump may not be politically advantageous in the Republican primary, some candidates may see this as an opportunity to distinguish themselves and appeal to a wider audience by highlighting their commitment to democracy and the rule of law.
Trump's Loss in 2020 Election
The podcast discusses how Donald Trump's loss in the 2020 election is not being emphasized by Republican candidates. They are failing to embrace the argument that Trump is a loser and that running as a candidate who denies the outcome of the election is not a winning strategy.
Biden's Approach to Trump's Indictments
The podcast explores whether it is feasible and wise for President Biden and Democrats to avoid talking about Trump's indictments. While some argue that it should be a major focus, others suggest that discussing the details of the indictments might only feed into the perception that they are politicized investigations. Instead, it is suggested that Biden should make a broader argument about what a second Trump term could look like, focusing on the threat to democracy.
Donald Trump and his 18 co-defendants prepare to turn themselves in to Fulton County jail. Jen Psaki joins to preview the first debate, laugh about Ron DeSantis’s ongoing struggle to appear human, and talk about how Joe Biden and Democrats should handle Trump’s courtroom campaign. And later, Jon, Dan, and Jen play a round of 2 Takes and a Fake.
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