

Ep. 188 Brian McLaren - Learning to See Fascism & Learning to Resist by Telling a Better Story (with episode co-host Don Morrow)
6 snips Jun 5, 2025
Brian McLaren, an influential author and activist, joins Don Morrow, a dedicated minister, to explore the intersection of Christianity and rising authoritarianism in America. They discuss the church's role in educating followers about fascism and highlight the importance of positive narratives that promote love and peace. The conversation reflects on historical oversights and the necessity for churches to confront uncomfortable truths. They also emphasize collective empowerment through love and the transformative power of hope in challenging times.
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Church Fails to Teach Fascism Discernment
- The Christian church has failed to teach discernment about fascism despite historic precedents like Nazi Germany.
- Many churches led by authoritarian pastors may unknowingly prepare people to follow dangerous authoritarian leaders.
Charlottesville White Supremacist Encounter
- Brian McLaren witnessed white supremacist groups in Charlottesville in 2017, including a lethal attack on a protester.
- This firsthand experience strengthened his commitment to understanding and opposing authoritarianism.
Authoritarianism Embedded in US History
- American history includes deep authoritarian roots such as indigenous genocide and slavery.
- Christian nationalism often camouflages authoritarianism by linking religion with nationalistic moral cover.