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Walter Russel Mead and Elliott Abrams on Navigating the New Middle East

Dec 5, 2025
Walter Russell Mead, a foreign-policy scholar, and Elliott Abrams, a seasoned diplomat, dive into the transformative shifts in the Middle East. They discuss how Israel's military victories have altered regional dynamics yet failed to stabilize relations with Saudi Arabia. Abrams emphasizes the necessity of U.S. power for stability, especially in light of Iran's threats. Mead analyzes the hesitance of Russia and China to engage directly in the conflict. Together, they explore the future of Gaza and the complexity of U.S.–Israel ties shaped by historical and religious narratives.
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Limits Of Military Victory

  • Israel cannot be defeated in war but military victory doesn't reshape the Middle East to Israel's liking.
  • Regional politics and long-term social dynamics limit what battlefield success can achieve.
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American Power Still The Regional Cement

  • U.S. power remains central to Middle East stability and outcomes.
  • When American influence is applied the regional balance shifts quickly, affecting allies and adversaries alike.
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Decline Narratives Misread U.S. Strength

  • Predictions of inevitable U.S. decline have been perennial and often wrong.
  • American power produces change rather than frozen stability, and that dynamism is a sign of influence not weakness.
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