Ep 209 Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: new research and Clinical Insights with Dr. Joel Young Part 1

Jul 2, 2025

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In this episode, Dr. Michael, a pediatrician and author of 'Conquering Your Fibromyalgia,' discusses the connections between ADHD, chronic fatigue syndrome, and fibromyalgia with Dr. Joel Young, a psychiatrist and head of the Rochester Center for Behavioral Medicine. The conversation delves into their shared experiences and research on treating these overlapping conditions, highlighting findings from clinical trials on LDX (Vyvanse) and Sorial (Armodafinil) as treatments for chronic fatigue syndrome. They explore the prevalence of ADHD in patients with chronic fatigue and discuss the limitations of traditional neuropsychological testing in diagnosing ADHD. Dr. Young shares insights on the effectiveness of targeted interventions and presents his clinic's innovative diagnostic tool, Mind Metrics, which aids in identifying psychiatric disorders in patients.

00:00 Introduction and Background
01:17 Guest Introduction: Dr. Joel Young
02:02 Dr. Young's Journey and ADHD Focus
04:03 Exploring ADHD and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
07:00 Clinical Trials and Findings
09:47 Patient Experiences and Qualitative Insights
10:11 Ongoing Research and Future Directions
17:05 Challenges in Diagnosing Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
24:16 Discussion on Neuropsychological Testing

International Conference on ADHD in November 2025 where Dr. Lenz will be one of the speakers.

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