In this episode Miles is joined Lyra Ekström Lindbäck (Centre for Ethics, Pardubice) to discuss the distinctions and connections between philosophy and literature, and why literature is not philosophy; focusing primarily on the work of Iris Murdoch which is the subject of Lyra's new book. Lyra is a Swedish novelist, literary critic, podcaster and philosopher. She has published six novels and a collection of poetry. Iris Murdoch and the Ancient Quarrel is her first work of philosophy. You can find out more, here: https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/iris-murdoch-and-the-ancient-quarrel-9781350332935/