In episode 9 of the podcast Matthew and Brian are joined by VMware’s CTO, Greg Lavender for a fascinating conversation about everything he’s learnt in making the switch from customer side to customer advocate. Greg offers great insight into what he’s hearing from FS organisations today and advice on what he would do differently if he worked for a bank again.
**About Matthew**
Matthew O'Neill is a husband, dad, geek and Industry Managing Director, Advanced Technology Group in the Office of the CTO at VMware.
You can find Matthew on [LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewoneill/) and [Twitter](https://twitter.com/MatthewON).
**About Brian**
Brian Hayes is an audiophile, dad, builder of sheds, maker of mirth, world traveller and EMEA Financial Services Industry Lead at VMware.
You can find Brian on [LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-hayes-global-transformation-infrastructure-leadership-innovation-cyber-cloud-digital-delivery/).
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