
 The Next Level
 The Next Level 1019: JVL Knows This Will Piss People Off | Secret Podcast
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 Sep 26, 2025  The hosts dive into big-tent liberalism, discussing who qualifies to be included. JVL rants about Henry Kissinger, warning listeners they'll probably disagree. A heated debate unfolds over whether all current issues can be resolved. Sarah offers her solutions, while JVL casts doubt on effectiveness. They tackle whether controversial thinkers can really be counted as liberals and the implications of including figures with troubling pasts in their philosophical tent. Expect sparks to fly as they challenge each other's perspectives! 
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Actuary Humor Meets Border Anxiety
- JVL jokes about being an actuary and worrying about border rights under a Trump administration.
- He frames personal risk calculations about travel and civil liberties amid political uncertainty.
Big-Tent Liberalism Framed As Up Vs Down
- Cass Sunstein argues for expanding 'liberal' to a big-tent against an illiberal threat.
- The proposal reframes politics as up (liberal) vs down (illiberal) instead of left vs right.
Mixed Legacies Of Prominent Thinkers
- Sunstein's tent includes thinkers like Hayek, Nozick, and Reagan despite their contradictions.
- JVL and Sarah note that many influential figures mix liberal commitments with illiberal ideas.



