Brave Ideas Is The Office Investment Business Plan Being Disrupted?
A CRE masterclass with CapMan’s COO
Quote from Guest: “Property owners can earn higher rents from that space than if they were leasing it traditionally to say one single tenant.” - Ilkka Tomperi
Summary: Ilkka Tomperi, Partner & COO at CapMan Real Estate joins Bold founder Caleb Parker for Episode 4 of Season 9 where they discuss the importance of changing with the times and ensuring assets don’t become liabilities.
In this episode Caleb and Ilkka discuss CapMan’s value added strategy, and how they are approaching the growing gap between supply and demand in office real estate. They also discuss how the world of office and hotel real estate may merge and how this would change the business model.
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Value Bombs:
I believe the future of Office Real estate is what the hotel industry looks like - Caleb
For us that means that we are in principle mostly a value add investor. And repositioning assets is actually very much in our heart. - Ilkka
If we don't invest in these retrofits, in bringing these assets up to speed, they will become stranded assets. And that becomes a liability. - Caleb
You may have in a building a couple of tenants with three five year leases and then some others with 12 month notice periods. So that brings the weighted average lease length down in a building. - Ilkka
I think that the lines between the asset classes are blurring a little. - Ilkka
The office market is changing extremely rapidly at the moment. - Ilkka
Timestamps:
[01.49] Why Ilkka wanted to attend MIPIM
[03.41] How Capman are facing the changes happening in real estate
[5.22] Lease structures in Finland
[08.22] Can historical data be used to predict cash flow?
[09.33] Will the future of offices look like hotels?
[10.41] Capman’s recent deal in Stockholm
[12.27] Examples of office and hotel assets being combined
[13.31] Smaller and larger companies working together to lease space
[14.33] The best markets for global investors
[18.06] Core capital and investors
[18.41] Where different investor profiles are concentrating
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About Ilkka Tomperi
Ilkka Tomperi is Partner & COO at CapMan Real Estate, a leading Nordic private asset expert with an active approach to value creation.
Ilkka is also a Professor of Practice (Real Estate Investment) at Aalto University.
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