Host Volodymyr Yermolenko (chief editor at UkraineWorld.org) welcomes Hennadiy Druzenko, a well-known Ukrainian intellectual and volunteer, and the co-founder of a volunteer mobile hospital helping soldiers on the frontline and people who suffered from COVID-19 pandemics. They talk about Zelensky's presidency and how it compares to Poroshenko's; about the Ukrainian volunteer movement and its future; about the veteran community, and about why Ukraine still lacks a visionary leader.