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Parker's Pensées
Ep. 238 - Cosmopsychism vs. Functionalism w/Drs. Philip Goff and Jonathan Schaffer
Jul 3, 2023
Dr. Philip Goff and Dr. Jonathan Schaffer join the podcast to discuss the nature of the mind. They explore topics such as cosmopsychism, functionalism, the nature of pain, the evolution of consciousness, and the role of parsimony and definable concepts in theoretical frameworks. They also delve into mind-making and grounding principles, touching on the distinctions between subjective phenomenal properties and third-person physical facts.
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- Dr. Schaffer takes a functionalist approach, suggesting that minds arise from the right kind of functional organization, while Dr. Gough argues for panpsychism, positing that consciousness is fundamental to the cosmos or individual entities like machines.
- Dr. Shaffer's physicalism differs from traditional views, rejecting a simple reduction of mental properties to physical ones. He suggests that a deeper metaphysical understanding, including grounding principles, is needed.
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The Nature of Minds
Dr. Shaffer and Dr. Gough both agree that minds are experiential states, such as pain, but differ in their views on why they exist. Dr. Shaffer takes a functionalist approach, suggesting that minds arise from the right kind of functional organization, while Dr. Gough argues for panpsychism, positing that consciousness is fundamental to the cosmos or individual entities like machines. Both acknowledge the challenge of recognizing and defining minds in new contexts, such as artificial intelligence.
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