Mary Payne chats with her friend Kate Casey (Reality Life with Kate Casey) about the Payne in the Pod interview of October 1, 2018. We talk about what has changed since then - and what has stayed the same! As always, they find it hard to stay on topic and veer off into kids, Housewives, 90 Day Fiance and what we are listening to and watching.

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726 - Then and Now: Kate Casey of Reality Life with Kate Casey