
New Books in Economics Carl Benedikt Frey, "How Progress Ends: Technology, Innovation, and the Fate of Nations" (Princeton UP, 2025)
Nov 19, 2025
Carl Benedikt Frey, Dieter Schwarz Associate Professor at the Oxford Internet Institute, challenges the idea of inevitable progress in his new book. He delves into how history has shown technological advancement can lead to stagnation and failure. Frey discusses why some nations, like the Soviet Union, collapsed despite earlier successes. He emphasizes the interplay between decentralization, bureaucracy, and innovation. Moreover, he warns that both the U.S. and China risk stagnation unless diverse approaches to AI and competitiveness are maintained.
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Progress Is Contingent Not Inevitable
- Progress is not inevitable; it took 200,000 years to reach the Industrial Revolution.
- If progress were inevitable, every country would be rich and Britain wouldn't face productivity stagnation.
Bureaucracy Built Capacity But Dampened Exploration
- Chinese bureaucracy built capacity via unified writing, soil mapping, and irrigation that integrated markets.
- That centralized system attracted talent into administration and reduced incentives for disruptive exploration.
Fragmentation Fueled European Innovation
- European political fragmentation allowed skilled craftsmen and ideas to move across borders.
- That mixture of fragmentation plus cultural unity created a market for intellectual and technological exploration.


