Amanda Abrams on her story at The Intercept, "The Little-Known Reason Counties Keep Building Bigger Jails: Architecture Firms." "The Moment of Truth" with Jeff Dorchen follows the interview. Check out Amanda's article here: https://theintercept.com/2024/05/31/jail-construction-justice-architecture-firms/ Help keep This Is Hell! completely listener supported and access weekly bonus episodes by subscribing to our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thisishell