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 People Behind the Science Podcast Stories from Scientists about Science, Life, Research, and Science Careers 657: Sizing Up Species' Brains to Understand Nervous System Diversity and Development - Dr. Suzana Herculano-Houzel
 May 23, 2022 
 In this engaging conversation, Dr. Suzana Herculano-Houzel, a prominent expert in neuroscience and a musician, explores the connection between brain composition and cognitive abilities across species. She discusses her innovative 'Brain Soup' technique for neuron counting, revealing surprising insights into animal intelligence. Suzana also shares her passion for music and its role in effective science communication. Additionally, she addresses the challenges faced by Brazilian scientists and reflects on the enriching impact of travel on research and collaboration. 
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Musical Journey
- Dr. Herculano-Houzel learned piano, flute, and cello, taking up the latter in Cleveland.
- Transporting her cello to Germany proved cheaper to buy it a seat than a hard case.
Mentorship and Communication
- Story Landis, Dr. Herculano-Houzel's advisor, transitioned from English to science.
- Landis emphasized science communication, stating ineffective communicators aren't true scientists.
Science as Work
- Public perception often undervalues scientific work, viewing it as less demanding than other careers.
- Dr. Herculano-Houzel highlights that scientists, like others, pursue their chosen passions.


