Myles Garrett & AJ Brown Got Traded, Caleb Williams on Madden Cover, Da Bears & Shirtless Ben Johnson | EP 194

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Jun 3, 2026

Caleb Williams, Chicago Bears quarterback and 2022 Heisman winner, talks year two working with offensive coordinator Ben Johnson. He discusses comfort in the offense, adjusting to under-center timing and motions, his best throws, the tight end advantage in Chicago, favorite local food, and memorable NFL welcome moments.

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ANECDOTE

Jason's Personal Take On Nick Herbig

Jason Kelce shares a personal connection to Nick Herbig from college workouts and praises his disruptive play.
He highlights Herbig's background (Hawaii roots) and calls him a 'stud' who flashes despite not starting regularly.

ADVICE

Use OTAs To Test Offseason Changes

Use OTAs to evaluate how offseason changes mesh and where installation still needs work.
Jason recommends treating early team gatherings as a low-stakes chance to measure chemistry and schematic fit before camp.

ADVICE

Design Merch Around Quality And Fan Details

When designing fan merchandise, prioritize quality and thoughtful details that resonate with the audience.
Jason highlights the New Heights Olukai sandals' leather, contoured support, and football-themed stitching as key differentiators.

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On today’s episode, Jason and Travis weigh in on AJ Brown finally heading to the Patriots, the shocking Myles Garrett trade to the Rams, the official reveal of the New Heights sandal, and we might’ve officially lost Philly Santa at Jason’s golf event.

And finally, we’ve got Caleb Williams. Caleb sits down with us and reveals why he’s hyped for season 2 with Ben Johnson, the secret to all of his unorthodox throws, we revisit the electric Bears/Rams playoff game, his feelings on more shirtless Ben Johnson, the best Chicago food, his welcome to the NFL moment, and more!

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